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Isar Bhattacharjee's avatar

Hey Neil - some thoughts here (also posted on twitter/x: https://x.com/Isar_b/status/1760240849189740794?s=20)

It's nice to see an MP lay out their thinking in detail, even if I disagree with policy recommendations that come out of it. It allows constituents engaged on the substance in a way that's increasingly infrequent in our fast-moving, short-attention-span news cycle.

On the actual substance of the analysis:

Totally agree on the challenges in data quality, but net fiscal contributions by ethnicity is an unreliable proxy for immigration. Even country of birth data is unreliable, although less so. Selection biases will skew the data here quite substantially. The earnings data quality is much better and so the analysis holds up a lot better.

Second there are deeper questions with the net contribution maths:

Immigrants disproportionately in sectors that have positive externalities (NHS, care roles, high skill sectors). You need to consider vacancies in these sectors - to really calculate the net impact on the economy and the governments fiscal position.

Moreover, the reason for immigrating is not stable. I came to the UK as a dependent (NB: I'm now a citizen) & I know lots who came for education but stayed for high skills jobs. Being thoughtful about the pipeline of talent requires looking beyond original reasons for immigrating

On the recommendations, deeply agree about the chronic underinvestment issue but there are other policy levers to think about - here are just a fewL

1. (Easy win) Helping people work while asylum applications are being processes

2. Building a more effective pipeline of graduates into high skills jobs. This includes more career support and crucially getting better at commercialising research (uk is particularly bad at this esp compared to us)

3. Change how we calculate fiscal contribution so we acknowledge public sector roles' externalities

4. Paying those in the NHS or care sector more (by the nature of these calculations this would make a huge impact to the analysis because they'll be contributing more fiscally)

5. Doing more longitudinal research on dependents to understand lifetime contributions rather than looking at 1 year snapshots and extrapolating without evidence

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Pete's avatar

Very, very good.

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