We've just seen this morning reports that very large numbers of people are at risk of food insecurity and that there are people turning up at food banks who are tearing open their boxes as soon as they receive them. THAT's how far you've pushed things already.
But all Neil O'Brien can do is start the usual Tory trick of benefits bashing because all that party has left now is turning people against one another so as to deflect attention away from the psychopathically greedy and selfish.
Quite obviously very large numbers of people are going to starve to death in this country and social chaos is going to ensue. You can't ever say you weren't warned.
I'm truly amazed that at this stage in the game you're stupid enough to keep doing this and to proudly put your name to it.
If I were you I'd be thinking about what you're going to do after you've stopped being an MP.
It should be possible to model the % receiving >£30k when taking into account the implied subsidy of social housing. Even taking a conservative assumption of £10k subsidy for living in Somers Town and Tower Hamlets, that would surely boost many over the £30k mark.
If you have code, could you share it please? I would like to work this out myself.
1. Are you comparing like with like in comparing the average after-tax income of a working-age person with the income received in the form of benefits payments by a working-age household? Should the comparison not be between households, thus the former being an average taking account of those households where more than one person is working and earning income?
2. How is the “ethnicity” of a household determined? Is this self-declared and is there any distinction between someone who is a citizen versus someone who has applied for citizenship?
3. Is it possible to compare benefits received with average working-age household by ethnicity, i.e rather than using the overall national average after-tax, using the after-tax average income for each ethnic group?
We've just seen this morning reports that very large numbers of people are at risk of food insecurity and that there are people turning up at food banks who are tearing open their boxes as soon as they receive them. THAT's how far you've pushed things already.
But all Neil O'Brien can do is start the usual Tory trick of benefits bashing because all that party has left now is turning people against one another so as to deflect attention away from the psychopathically greedy and selfish.
Quite obviously very large numbers of people are going to starve to death in this country and social chaos is going to ensue. You can't ever say you weren't warned.
I'm truly amazed that at this stage in the game you're stupid enough to keep doing this and to proudly put your name to it.
If I were you I'd be thinking about what you're going to do after you've stopped being an MP.
It should be possible to model the % receiving >£30k when taking into account the implied subsidy of social housing. Even taking a conservative assumption of £10k subsidy for living in Somers Town and Tower Hamlets, that would surely boost many over the £30k mark.
If you have code, could you share it please? I would like to work this out myself.
Planning to come back to that issue shortly
Interesting and commendable analysis.
Could you please clarify a few things for me?
1. Are you comparing like with like in comparing the average after-tax income of a working-age person with the income received in the form of benefits payments by a working-age household? Should the comparison not be between households, thus the former being an average taking account of those households where more than one person is working and earning income?
2. How is the “ethnicity” of a household determined? Is this self-declared and is there any distinction between someone who is a citizen versus someone who has applied for citizenship?
3. Is it possible to compare benefits received with average working-age household by ethnicity, i.e rather than using the overall national average after-tax, using the after-tax average income for each ethnic group?
As Neil couldn't be bothered to do the correct analysis I did it for him. The total number of families earning above the average national wage (assuming a second parent is working part time) is 217,658. Data available at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n-Qpl-21h18-Ba4JOIkyDlwIdk66BiiRhkjGx1OqQFQ/edit?usp=sharing
1) The comparison is what it is - you can take your pick
2) Self reported
3) Yes, I think ONS “Effects of Tax and Benefits” does this
Thank you.
" People forget what they have received."
Or is this evidence of fraud?