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Thanks. Useful, hard to find, real UK fiscal information.

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«You might not be sympathetic to investors - but falling asset prices might have a bad consequence for the public finances too, where the numbers are flattered by assumptions that asset taxes will yield lots of money.»

As usual an interesting post with interesting data, but this point amused me because if asset prices fail to rise for a significant period the least of the consequences will be lower taxes:

* If any asset fail to generate large capital gains and fat profits then a large part of "investors" will sell them as quickly as they can and then this will spiral into a crash.

* Assets are collateral for a colossal amount of debt as it is well known that over 90% of UK commercial bank loans are mortgages collateralised by asset valuations. The whole UK financial system could blow up like it did in 2008-2010 and it is by no means certain that any government could hand out to them many other hundreds of billions of free cash and 0% "loans" to bail them out again without causing major troubles.

* Most importantly rising asset prices are the core electoral base of thatcherism/blairism: most of "Middle England" is still made by workers and those workers will only vote for lower labor costs if they get large capital gain and rents from property that more than compensate them.

As to the latter point up to 2021 the Conservatives were unusually winning commons by-elections while being in office thanks to the huge property gains post-COVID and they only switched away from Conservatives when property prices went flat in 2022 and switched away from New Labour as they stayed flat to this day.

Since Thatcher and Blair every english general election is a property price referendum and if asset prices do not rise “fiscal fragility” will be the least of the worries for whoever is in office.

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